Get The Point

Ted / 08.Jan.2008

Boy, have I got a good one for you today. A concerned citizen showed me ThePoint.com yesterday, and I was very impressed. The basic idea is that you start a 'campaign' on the site, and when people join this campaign, they will agree to perform some sort of action, but only if a certain number of people have joined said campaign. This number is the 'tipping point', and is specified by the campaign starter.

Undoubtedly created by some people who read Malcolm Gladwell's idiot-accessible pseudo scientific books and have never even heard of a bifurcation diagram, ThePoint.com serves up a heaping helping of fail.

Borrone Sanitation

The feature of this website that I would like to concentrate on is the 'ultimatum' campaign. As the campaign organizer, you issue an ultimatum to a target. This target can be a person, company, whatever. The target must meet your demands or else all of the members of the campaign will perform the action you set forth at the beginning, if the tipping point of members is reached.

They actually give an example of this in action. A worker at a company is upset that health insurance is not offered. So, she starts an ultimatum campaign on ThePoint.com against the company. If health insurance is not offered, she says, then all of the members of the campaign, who are other employees at the company, will join together and go to the press with a story about how bad working conditions are. They have seen bad press drive the company's stock price down in the past, so they feel this is a good place to apply pressure.

Webistics

ThePoint.com calls this corporate responsibility. I call it extortion.

It is unclear what ThePoint's business plan is. I have an idea, though. Companies could pay them to prevent users from making that company the target of a campaign. Yeah, they could call it a protection plan. You asshats should hire me as a consultant.

Anyhow, because this hasn't been quite enough fun yet, I've created a campaign on ThePoint.com. I propose an ultimatum to ThePoint.com: you will either change your stupid tagline from people solving problems to extortion 2.0 or all of the members of my campaign will write negative blog posts about you.

Join my campaign here. Come on, I know there are like 3,000 RSS subscribers and ~2,000 uniques per day, so I have to be able to muster 500 of you clowns to write something negative about ThePoint. Bonus points for linking to this post with anchor text 'the point' to make Uncov come up higher than ThePoint.com in the Google Results for that search.

Internet: serious business.

36 Comments

in before personal army
This is why I love this site. A - I was dopey enough to try and read a Gladwell book - got thru about 50 pages before yelling at the walls screaming wtf is he talking about. And B - I'd much rather hear Ted rank on a site than actually visit it. In many areas of the world they don't have revolutionary Web 2.0 concepts like thepoint, they have this old archaic thing called unions (yeah I know they're about as easy to find in the states like an 8-track tape). But for the sake of general snarkiness I'd be happy to join a dopey campaign on a dopier site.
already done in a deliberately not-for-profit way, by www.pledgebank.com. Some of the pledges suck, but one of them started the UK's sort-of EFF, the Open Rights Group
Uncov army.
The reason that sites such as the point wont work: people are lazy and apathetic. Ted, we need more substantive bile.
I particularly like how they uses https URLs - just in case someone wasn't taking their website seriously enough. This isn't progress. It isn't innovation. It's extortion themed mad-libs.
Extortion 2.0? Oh that is so gay.
uncov uncovered: http://epsilondelta.net/2007/04/04/uncovcom/ you guys are starting to look like this guy: http://www.zedshaw.com/rants/rails_is_a_ghetto.html PersaiFailException in less than 528 hours, better have a lot of javascript "this will work for now" comments!
and put some goddamn BR tags for newlines on this shitty form!
I drink my own pee!
It has begun; the market has been flat since New Year, Gold is Climbing. VC's, Valley, cloned web20biz, hold on to your butts.
oh, L-ord, what a horrible useless web site! what a travesty of wasted (minimal) developer talent.
Every time I click on the refresh there is another member added. This will rock to see if they send you an email TED.
Sounds like Assassination Politics.
Ha I agree, this site will probably be an awesome workflow tool for extortionists. I wonder though, are you assigning a fail because noone will use it, or because it's designed to aid the kind of losers that support trade unions? Would a trade union technically be a fail, even if they succeeded in getting their way?
The weird thing is that I'm sure they'd love to have a few hundred bloggers write about them even if it's negative. Bad publicity > no publicity online a lot of the time.


/n \n personal army of idiots
uncoverer, I dont know what your post is supposed to prove? that post on epsilon delta is exactly what uncov is and you providing it proves jackshit. On the other hand, this post is hilarious even if I think this would be a good idea if people weren't so lazy
In after Zed Shaw!
Too lazy. Don't want to sign up somewhere else. Don't want to donate them a free link in the internets even if it is a negative story.
what's Persai's tagline?
I agree that the site is pointless, but by this logic, are labor unions just for facilitating extortion as well?
Here ya go, Steve: "Persai: using math operators rather than string manipulation for calculations since 2006." Anyone who uses "bifurcation diagram" in a critique is destined to go far. Next week: confusion matrices!
you're just jealous you sexually frustrated nerd
@mick: yes.
@mick: yes.
Wow, they're totally biting on http://www.pledgebank.com/. Shame on them.
Oh. Apart from the extortion. That's of their own making for sure.
I've never heard of a bifurcation diagram. Am I an idiot, too? But hey..I drive an $95,000 Porsche 911 so who's the smarter one? But I do agree that this site is nothing short of extortion. I hope your blog campaign works. I'd sign up, if I could be bothered to write a blog.
"I agree that the site is pointless, but by this logic, are labor unions just for facilitating extortion as well?" Yup. Pretty much. That and they make great vehicles for facilitating organized crime and crooked politics who snooker their largely clueless members.
Like most Porsche 911 drivers, I pronounce it Poorsh (incorrectly), and I have a tiny penis. Now, my question...
this site takes forever to send confirmation emails
Almost as slow as long as the TechCrunch forums does...
Could we have an ultimatum campaign against arrington's arrogance?
WTF? They want me to create a frikkin account?!!? Bueller? Hello, McFly? Ever heard of fekkin OpenID? I haz it! You don'ts. FAILS!
@mike cane: plz lern 2 english kthxbai

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